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A diehard IU fan's response on Mike Davis

Posted on: October 31, 2008 3:48 pm
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Hi Kevin,
 
This is quite a column you have here:
 
http://www.al.com/sports/birmingham

news/kscarbinsky.ssf?/base/sports/1212999317206060.xml&coll=2&thispage=1

 
I think what I enjoy most, is that your motives are very transparent:
 
"That means one thing.
 
More than a few Indiana basketball fans are going to read it and see red."
 
That means one thing, Hoosier Nation is huge, and we're going to generate more clicks than UAB fans who are probably off thinking about football, or something.
 
To entertain your question, Indiana fans have every right to be upset with Bobby Knight, Mike Davis and Kelvin Sampson, for different reasons, but they all left the program in under dubious circumstances. Sampson being the worst but Mike Davis not getting a free pass, either.
 
To be honest, I was always a Mike Davis apologist until he made one fatal mistake, which you didn't mention in your column. Mike Davis' story at IU was mostly one of luck, some of it was good luck, some of it was very bad. He was in the right place at the right time, inherited a team that could shoot the lights out and lucked his way all the way to the National Championship game, in 2002. I give Mike Davis quite a bit of credit for that, IU's victory over Duke (a 13-point spread underdog) and the incredible comeback IU made (the most incredible basketball game I have ever watched) had a lot to do with Mike Davis' coaching. Anyone who doesn't recognize that is foolish.
 
Mike Davis also had some stretches of horrific luck. DJ White going down for a year, Bracey Wright constantly being injured, Kirk Haston leaving early at the advice of a bitter Bob Knight.
 
But Mike Davis had to go. He was in way over his head, this not a good rookie job. Indiana has 5 National Championships, 3rd most in College Basketball (more than UNC, more than Duke, etc...), we want more, and we have one of the biggest followings on the planet. Note how the Indiana game was the first sellout Minnesota has had in years:
 
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/recap

?gameId=280170135

 
"Playing in front of their first sellout crowd in nearly three years, the Gophers just couldn't take it away."
 
And keep in mind that Minnesota's campus is in the biggest metropolitan area in the entire Big Ten. Yeah, Indiana Basketball really is that big. I was there, it was electric!
 
Simply put, Mike Davis was in way over his head. I could stand him missing out on Indiana talents (Josh McRoberts, Sean May, Dominic James, etc...), I could stand the odd marginal performance team. And I could even stand his emotional blowout at Kentucky, although this was a sign he was in over his head, that kind of decorum, on National Television, is not recommended.
 
So what was that fatal mistake I mentioned? Simple, he missed on Greg Oden. I'll never forgive him for that, Oden wanted to attend IU as a high school junior, even said it on ESPN, and Davis botched it! Not sure how he botched it, but he did. That single mistake, which is an unforgivable sin, compounded every single mistake he ever made.
 
Okay, so the past is the past, I'll forgive. In fact, I think you have it all wrong, you don't want me to let Mike Davis go. Not only do I not wish Mike Davis any illwill, I actually hope he does well with UAB, I just wanted him out of the Indiana University coaching job, couldn't handle it. However, I think UAB's the perfect job for him, a mid-major type programme, not the pressure cooker IU is. He'll do better out of the limelight, and he recruits well in his home state of Alabama. Davis is my only connection to Conference USA, so sure, go UAB. Best of luck this year.
 
Regards,
Nathan Oliver
B.Sc. Finance & Economics - Indiana University
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A diehard IU fan's response on Mike Davis

I've got a lot of problems with this column. First of all, you can't put Sampson and Knight in the same sentence; their "infractions" were completely different. Knight was a good recruiter, all of his players graduated, and though he was a disciplinarian with a bad temper, I believe he always had the best interest of his players and team at heart. The same can't be said for Sampson.

As for Mike Davis, he wasn't a good recruiter, and his time at Indiana as well as UAB have been marked largely by mediocrity. His first three successful years at IU were largely with Knight's recruits, and his record after that was lousy.  And now he's 38-27 in two years with UAB? Not impressive. I'm supposing that most IU fans are happy Davis is gone -- but I'm not sure UAB fans are as happy that Mike Anderson has been replaced by Davis ...



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A diehard IU fan's response on Mike Davis

I put Davis, Knight and Sampson in the same sentence only because they have a common bond, technically they were all head coach at IU. Knight may have thought he had the best interests of his team at heart, but I felt that given time, his conduct was a detriment to the team.

Mike Davis wasn't a great recruiter, but he wasn't a terrible recruiter. Consider the following laundry list:

  • Jared Jeffries (as an Assistant)
  • Robert Vaden
  • DJ White
  • Bracey Wright
  • Marco Killingsworth
  • Josh Smith (went directly to the NBA)

Those are all really good players. And Davis can recruit Alabama. If I'm a UAB fan, I'd be more than happy to have him, he can grow into a really respectable coach at that program.



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Posted on: February 14, 2009 1:58 am
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A diehard IU fan's response on Mike Davis

I wish Mike Davis all the best, he gave it a shot, just didn't work out @ IU. Hopefully Crean can finally help Hoosier nation put the Ghost of the General, & Sampson, behind it and move on into a much more successful future...



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